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Wednesday, September 7, 2011

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Why do you think Mr. McCully did not treat David the same way he treated Sean?  Is it okay that he treated them differently?

63 comments:

  1. i think that Mr.McCully treated David

    differently because Sean has gotten into

    trouble before so maybe he thought Sean started

    it.

    i also think David got treated differently because he was in a wheelchair.
    and in the book McCully said "the poor boy has enough to deal with"
    i think it is not ok that Sean got treated differently.
    everyone should be treated the same and i agree with Sean no one is guilty until
    proven so.

    McCully didnt even listen to Sean he just said

    sean has detention.

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  2. i think that Mr.mcCully treated david diferent because he felt bad bad for david.

    he felt bad for david because he was in a wheel chair.

    its true people in wheel chair do get special treatment.

    most people feel bad for disabled people
    because in the text it said that the vp or p said " the poor guy had been through enough" i think he feels sad for david

    i also think that sean got treated differently because last year sean used to get in a lot of trouble so the vp or p thinkzs that he started the fight

    i think it is not fair to treat someone differntly from the others plus mr mcCully didnt even listen to sean now he has to be the host of david

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  3. Mr.McCully didn't treat Sean like he treated David because David's disability changed Mr.McCully's whole judgement on the situation.

    I wouldn't find it okay for a teacher to treat someone with a disability that way, because the student will always know that the ONLY reason why people give him special treatments is because of his disability. And that feeling wouldn't be a good feeling for the student deep inside. It can bring dark emotions.

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  4. I think Mr.McCulley treated them differently because he felt bad that he was yelling at David and that he was on a wheelchair.
    I think it is wrong to yell at the person that is not disabled, or disabled because I think that yelling doesn't really help, but yelling at Sean and not even asking David what happened was wrong.I think that since it is David's fault, He should treat him the same way as anybody else that would do something like that because he's just a kid like anybody else.

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  5. I think Mr.McCully didn't treat Sean like he treated David is because David is Handycap and most people don't assume that handycaps are bullys!

    The reason why he blamed Sean is because a person who is not injured bullying a person who is in a wheelchair is everyone first thought that he did it and wheelchair is inocent!
    Its like if I was in a wheelchair and I ran someone over, everyone would be in my side

    It's not fair to treat someone differently cause of there problem in life!

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  6. Mr.McCully didn't treat Sean like he did David all because David was in a wheelchair and Mr.Mccully may have assumed that he is innocent because he is disabledm

    I don't think it was right for him to treat them diffrently because the only diffrence between David and Sean is that David is in a wheelchair soo that dosent give Mr.McCully a reason to treat him diffrently and to not listen to what Sean is saying

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  7. I think Mr.McCully treated Sean that way because david was in a wheel chair and he thinks that people in wheelchairs aren't bad, but Mr.McCully was wrong he blamed Sean just because he wasn't in a wheelchair or something... So from my point of view I think that we shouldn't treat Handycaps diffrently in this situation.

    I feel bad for Sean

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  8. @Donna I agree and I think he beat up Sean because he knows being disabled is an advantage when it comes to things like that because he knows people are going to feel sorry for him

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  9. I think Mr.McCully treated David different because he`s automatically bent on thinking that since David was in a wheelchair it`s not any of his fault. Therefore, the blame goes on Scott because he was not in a wheelchair and he`s been in trouble before. I could understand why he would put the blame on Sean but he has to understand the other side of the story as well.


    However, I think it`s completely wrong to treat a child differently from others because it makes the child feel insecure. I think Mr.McCully should have toned down his anger a little bit more so he could listen to the real story and actually investigate the story a little bit more to find out the real story.

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  10. Great start Team,

    Let me try and get you thinking:

    Do you really think that all the students should be treated the same way when it comes to poor behaviour?

    Assume David was not in a wheel chair, and was a student that had NO history of getting in trouble, and got in a fight with a student that had a long history of fighting and bullying.

    Would you expect the same treatment for both students?

    In other words are you accountable for your past?

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  11. Mr.McCully treated David differently then Sean because David was in a wheelchair and Mr.McCully felt bad about David disability and was more madder at Sean because Mr.McCully came at the wrong time if he came before he would be less madder.Also,I think Mr.McCully treats disabled people better then normal people.Lastly,I think that Mr.McCully should have also took David to the office with Sean.

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  12. @mr.cheney

    no you sometimes aren't accountable for your past because you are innocent before you are proven guilty. Sure Sean got into some trouble last year but now you can't always blame him for every bad deed.

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  13. @mr cheney i think someone with no fight history is going to be treated differently and will be forgiven but someone with fight history will get a bigger punishment.

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  14. @abeenash

    i agree but Mr.McCully did give a chance for sean to prove himself innocent

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  15. @malav

    you are right McCully did say that and its wrong to do that

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  16. @Mr.Cheney I think I would expect the same treatment because either way both of them are part of the fight that`s going on and a fight can go a long way. Getting yourself into the fight makes you get in the trouble so yes they would get the same treatment.


    In conclusion your the actions you do, people do remember and take you as the person you are known for. So yes I think you are very much accountable for your past.

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  17. @ MrCheney Defiantly because it was there choice of they're actions to fight one another.

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  18. A student can always change you never know if a student is committed and he sticks to that promise I guess his past should be forgiven because the past is the past Master Uguay explains it to Po the panda "Yesterday is history tomorrow a mystery but today is a gift and that is why its called the present" Yes you should take responsibility for your actions. But it is because of those mistakes that we learn to not do it again.

    I would expect equal treatment because the past is the past but then again we do not live in a perfect world nothing near to the perfect world a teacher could just simply say I don't wanna see it happen again, but no I think the teacher will be a bit biased against the person who has the record of fighting and bullying. You are accountable for your past but that doesn't mean you can bring it up all the time.

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  19. I think Mr.McCulley treated David differently then Sean because David is disabled, and the second reason is because of Sean's past experiences.Sean has gotten into trouble quit a few times.Mr.McCully shouldn't judge the past and he shouldn't judge at all but he should listen to both sides of the stories

    I personally think no, they both should be in trouble equally because they both were included in this fight.If the child is new or old, disabled or not it doesn't matter everything should be equally given among the people involved either its a punishment or award.

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  20. I think Mr.Mccully was more mad at Sean then David because hes in a wheelchair, Mr.. Mccully even said, "poor boy he already has enough to deal with". wich is him showing compassion to David, i agree thats nice to do to someone in a wheel chair, but they shouldent get extra treatment just because hes in a wheel chair. Also, he cant just blame Sean for fighting instantly, he should have taken a vote before Sean asked him to do so. So yes i think it was wrong to treat David differently.

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  21. i think that Mr.McCully treated David differently because Sean has gotten into
    trouble before so maybe he thought Sean started
    it.And because David is in a wheelchair and MrMcCully felt sorry for David.

    @ Mr.Cheney i would expect the same treatment for both students because their both fighting.

    and you shouldn't look at the past

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  22. @vinita in your post you had put Mr.McCully treated David different because he`s automatically bent on thinking that since David was in a wheelchair it`s not any of his fault. I truely agree MrMcCully did think that but as almost everyones post says they both should be treated equally right

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  23. @Sundus i totally agree with the last sentence you typed you shouldn't look at the past and also with that you could add an not to judge anyone it will make more sense because this line also goes to david not only sean

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  24. @Cheney
    I think EVERYONE should be treated the same way when it comes to poor behaviour. The fact that David was disabled was completely irrelevant! And since Mr.McCully added that fact into a violent situation without knowing the story, he immediately "pointed his finger" at Sean.

    I would expect the same treatment for everyone. They should all be treated the same, treated equally.

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  25. @Mr.Cheney:every student that gets into a fight can be for various reasons. They should all get in trouble for what bad they had done but the punishment and parent calling should be for who ever was evolved.

    No they wouldn't be treated the same way because in this story "Rebound" a boy in a WHEEL CHAIR gets into a fight but doesn't get into trouble but in this situation they both would get into trouble and Mr.McCully wouldn't feel "bad" for any of them because they don't has a disability

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  26. @Mr.Cheney I think if David wasent in a wheelchair he would still treat Sean the same because he has a history of bad behaviour and this was Davids first time being in trouble because he is a new kid

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  27. @ mr.cheney.i think if david wasn't even in a wheel chair he still would of got the same treatment as sean

    i think this because when david broke the rules he cant take that back i say if you broke it you broke it, you can make up to it but you cant take it back

    i think you're not accountable for your pasts because many people can change so you can't reffer to that.even though your heart says the person who was in trouble a lot of times is the person to give consequences too you choose to believe that or not to

    some say you are innocent before your proven guilty
    i say david should of went to the principals office with sean period.

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  28. @ vinita some people can change you know

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  29. I think Mr.McCully only took Sean to the office because first of all Sean gets in trouble a lot for stuff like fighting and bullying. Second of all David is a new student who has clean record of no fights or bullying. Lastly I think Mr.McCully only took Sean and not David to the office because since David is on a wheelchair so Mr.McCully probably that he could not have done anything to Sean.In addition i think Mr.McCully thought it was sean because when sean heard Mr.McCully voice he got scared and tried to escape from where the fight was happening but Mr.McCully grabed sean from the legs.

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  31. @mr.cheney If David was not on a wheelchair but still had and no history of getting in trouble, I think he will be treated the same Sean was treated. I think that because when Sean tried to escape from Mr.McCully, Mr.McCully grabbed Sean legs he yelled at Sean and walk through the crowd to get David .when he got to David he yelled at David and told him to go to his office. However when Mr.McCully saw David drag himself to his wheelchair and get on there instead of yelling this time he ask David that if he was ok.

    Therefore, what I think is that if David did not drag himself to the wheelchair Mr.McCully would have not felt empathetic and David would in the office with Sean.

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  32. @SanaN that is really so true but how would the poor guy that has a leg injury get back up and move? he would have got in deep trouble if he didn't go on his wheel chair because Mr.McCully was yelling at david to get up off the ground but if he stayed there he would have gotten in more trouble which i inferring he wouldn't want

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  33. i liked how Mr.McCully actually listen to sean and investigated and even listen to him did not call his parent.

    Anyhow,I think thay should have been treated the same because when Mr.McCully investgated some of the Student should have blamed it on David because i remember that when Sean got pushed on the ramp from David, Sean heard some student Giggling.

    So i wonder why didn't they say anything when Sean was the only one going to the office.

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  34. @neha i was the answering mr.cheney because he asked "Assume David was not in a wheel chair, and was a student that had NO history of getting in trouble, and got in a fight with a student that had a long history of fighting and bullying".

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  35. Great responses to my questions. I wonder though are your answers realistic?

    Do all students get treated the same for every situation? most of you answered yes they should but does this happen?

    As well something else to make you think. Isn't your past a great reflection of who we are now and likely what we may become? Yes people can change but more often then not they do not, rather they grow and blossom from that past.

    Ill present another example. If a person was arrested for stealing from the mall and it was their 1st time. Would you expect the same treatment from the Law if someone was caught stealing from the mall for the 8th time. And lets pretend the person was stealing from a store your parents owned.

    hmmm make you think.

    C

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  36. As well Team the issue of the wheelchair and being handicapped is a large issue. Is Mr McCully wrong for being sympathetic towards David? is it realistic? Do you think you act and feel the same as Mr. McCully?

    C

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  38. ok i think the person who the 8th time should in more trouble then the person who stole once

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  39. i'm starting to see what you mean of being more realistic


    by the way i'll never steal from my parents shop i'll just ask and they'll give it to me

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  40. now i say that david should atleast serve one detention when sean could serve more

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  41. @ mr cheney wow
    i didnt think of it that way...
    thanks

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  42. I want to highlight what we think is right and moral and fair. is often not what we accept as right and moral and fair in the world we live in.

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  43. yes
    so what McCully thought was fair actualy wasnt for sean
    is that what you mean?

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  44. I'm trying to demonstrate that Mr. McCully acted the way we would act.

    and we as readers will ideally learn from it...thus a lesson that is coming up on the power of narrative.

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  45. is he right or not...we will debate...but we are Mr. McCully...with his undiscovered biases and assumptions.

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  46. @Sana
    I do believe Sean deserves more detention than David because he provoked and started it Verbally while David ignited the fire by punching him. And by the sound of how hard David was hitting him he should have just a little bit less detention than David just a bit.

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  47. @Malav
    If you can sleep. Last comment of the day I gotta go sleep. Sauce Boss out.

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  48. We will continue the discussion in class

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  49. @tabish
    i think you are tabish...
    well yes i agree but also disagree sean should have less detention but sean should have just went away, and avoid the WHOLE problem...

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  50. @Mr Cheney Mr Mcully didn't give shaun a chance to prove himself right because he wasn't disabled + he also got accounted for a lot of other fights as
    well. I think that it was a right choice for Mr Mcully to treat him differently because of those reasons.

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  51. Let have debate in the class tired of typing

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  52. I think that once you`ve done something done something bad repeatedly the consequences can be severe. With the law, doing something once you could get off with a warning. Doing things that are bad and repeating that, the consequences will get to it`s own extent. Stealing can take it`s own tool either way. I thing no, the treatment of law will be different.

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  53. @Abeeshan I know people can change but the persons actions stays the same when it comes to reality.

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  54. At some point i think it was okay that he treated them differently and at another i feel it wasn't.

    I think it was not okay because when it comes to behavior eveyone should be treated the same way. Just because david is disabled that doesn't mean that you can ignore his side of the story and punish Sean only.

    On the other hand, even if david is disabled i think that it was fair that david ( who is new to this school doesn't get punished but at least a warning ) and sean should serve the consequences because he's repeatedly been making the same mistakes over and over again. David is new to this school so he should just be let off for now ( until the next time .....)

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  55. @ Cookie Monster
    True but some ppl think that Mr.McCully should of at least asked sean his side of the story, but he didn't need to cause probably sean would have made an excuse or promised that if McCully lets him of this time he won't do it again.


    Like always he would find a loophole and get out of it,but Mr.McCully knows that if he lets him off this time then sean would do it again, so there was no point of dealing with the same problemo again so why not end it now ..........!

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  56. i don't think he did cuz they both should get the same consequenes that he did cuz it's not fair

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  57. in my opinion mr.cully didn't treat sean the way he trated david because sean has goten in trouble lots of times before but david hasn't

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  58. i think mr.McCully treated sean differently because sean has gotten into trouble many times already. Why would mr.McCully think that david a new kid in a wheelchair had started this fight?

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